I still feel these are better players clubs for 15 handicappers or below as they are bladed heads which require you to deliver the club consistently and strike the centre of the face. Justins family and friends also know him as a kindhearted young man who goes out of his way to give back. Notice how few balls landed past the target.. I think some of you think too highly of yourselves & don't give tour players enough credit. The strategy implemented to create 10 additional yards of carry could be from lack of knowledge regarding how far each club goes. WebBut he picked up 25 yards for elevation, 25 for wind, and another 45 for extra roll. Either way I don't care. Justin Thomas is one of the most exciting and popular golfers on the PGA TOUR. How many average golfers drive the ball 250 yards and keep it in the fairway? [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364403614' post='6707409'] Smash Factor 1.475 You could take my woods and irons and pair it with Phil's wedge play and Stricker's putter and I'd be an average PGA tour player. My longest drive was 270. There is no age or nationality restriction for the AMA. Distance is great. Distance to Apex 195.9 I've had the privilege of playing with and watching tour players in person, so I know what they're capable of. I am writing a dissertation at university and was wondering how you got all your data. I know I'm not a short hitter & I know there's a ton of bs on this board. What is evident is you obviously don't play with good amateur players. And as it is highly unlikely even the best pros in the world never want to hit their driver as far as they can so it is clearly the club we are going to get the best idea of the maximum distance they hit the ball. When I watch professional events I am always taken aback by how high they hit their driver but how low they hit their wedges. Most of the guys I play/practice with are +2 to 5 handicaps. The "you have to be a tour player to hit a long way" mentality is comical to say the least. Only 0.4% of the average male amateur population is above a club speed of 115 mph. 52* & 58* Callaway MD2 // S-300 Since SM6 Vokeys have evolved subtly to be exactly what tour players want. Optimizing a golfers distance with the driver (using their existing club speed) is an alternative way to effectively shortening a golf course. [/quote] [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364353617' post='6703853'] Unless you're using the ball you play with every round, in the different conditions you play in, the numbers on the Trackman are null and void. Most golfers I know are happy to drive the ball 200 yards and keep it in the fairway. Carry Efficiency 2.51 Don't doubt the ability of some people to produce similar numbers to the pros. Im sure most of them can squeeze out 10 extra yards on every club on this chart. They are clean and contemporary. More photos from the event here. Top 50 Player Guide. The LDA guys can't hang with the short games and are wildly sporadic with their tee shots, hence why they get multiple tries. Trackman stats obviously don't mean that much either. Everyone has one. [/quote] Trackman is obviously simply a tool for fitting & in no way plays any part on your actual game. This informative information was more helpful for golfers. PING i210 (4i-UW) DG X100 I have also never heard a beginner or poorer striker of the golf ball say I need to lower my ball flight which is what these are said to do. F rom the comfort of your sofa or if youre lucky, alongside the ropes each major championship gives you a chance to see the biggest hitters in the world unsheathe their drivers and swing away. When we compare these stock yardages for irons between the pros we get a consistent view of yardage which we can accurately compare across the players. The flight is reduced and the spin still remains. show the real time hit - then after the shot replay it with the numbers/tracer. On top of that it drew me feeling like unless I can hit it 250 every time and at least shoot in the low 90s from the Blue I might as well just give golf up. It doesn't take a genius to figure that one out. Their experiences, time away from family, and willingness to sacrifice their lives for our freedom has truly made an impact on Justin. Trackman is obviously simply a tool for fitting & in no way plays any part on your actual game. Some of us didn't have the means or access to learn and play a lot of golf when we were Teeball aged. Shafts: True Temper Project X PXi, Driver: TaylorMade Stealth 2 Plus (9 degrees @ 8) Ive tried lots of different woods shafts and lengths but seem to reach a ceiling on distance. How to gain more distance without swinging faster? As the previous poster said Im 43 so wont be Bubba Watson anytime soon. Cobra Aerospeed 3W Kai'Li White [/quote] When it comes to talking about distance in golf the easiest and most obvious place to start is of course always with the longest club in the golf bag the driver. The numbers posted above are cool to me because you can see Tiger hits balls on the range like he does on the course. Even my 4 iron ball speed max is 137 and Im getting 235 yards. Can i play a pro v1, or a harder ball I wont more distance KIND regards Rene Claeys Ren. I remember they had the analysis of his 8 iron that he hit at firestone from like 200+ out in a golf digest or something a couple years ago don't remember any of the numbers unfortunately tho M2, maybe 915 FD 913 HD 712u 3 714 AP2 4-p SM5 53, 59 Circa62 knock it close Advanced Members 6.2k Feedback 0 0 0 Total Rating 0% Posted I hit the same. Can crush it further by trap drawing it really stepping on it. Flexibility, speed, and knowing how to transfer energy the most effi Don't doubt the ability of some people to produce similar numbers to the pros. For example, based on the average club speed of the AMA (93.4 mph) he should be able to hit his driver 255 yards (assuming certain ground conditions). I bet a lot of my tee shots find the rough though. Apex Height 112' 11" It takes persistence and painstaking practice to regularly do drills designed to help improve your swing speed, not to mention the constant measuring to ensure you are in fact improving your swing speed. Unlock the POWER Muscles in Your Golf Swing! Thanks for posting. The TrackMan Combine data collected from over 10,000 golfers of all levels from around the world will be used to analyze his performance in hopes of better understanding where improvement(s) can be made. Hcap 5 will be around 68. Launch Angle 11.28 Youd be correct and that is why its always best to get fitted and discuss purchases with your pro. By funding programming and fulfilling requests of those in need, they are committed to showing compassion, displaying kindness, and making a difference in the world. 4 out of 1000 swings avg 117 mph? also his AoD on the stinger. God how I loved playing golf. For years, Justin has quietly used his fame and financial wherewithal to help many. Standard 60 lob wedges meanwhile carry 95 to 105 yards on average. Should my ball speed be faster based on the distance Im getting. It's the short game. Hang Time 5.8 It's good for some laughs. I already use the SM8s and having seen the drop off in spin and different performance of my swing (I am less steep at impact these days) I will be changing wedges. Driver: Cobra Amp Cell Pro (8.5 degrees) Shaft: Aldila RIP Phenom 3-wood: Titleist 906F4 (13.5 degrees) Shaft: Aldila NV 7-wood: Michael Hopper whats in the bag accurate as of the WM Phoenix Open. This course setup for the AMA is assuming a perfectly optimal drive by the golfer so in theory 395 yards would be a maximum length for the AMA based on 50% GIR. [/quote] Shaft: Aldila NV, 7-wood: Callaway Big Bertha People that dwell on the fact that other people like to know their distances are funny. Or Fox Hollow in Baltimore? As a whole PGA pros hit their pitching wedge an average carry distance of 141 yards. President & CEO, Boys & Girls Clubs of Kentuckiana, Brent Paladino For example, I could average over 300 yards per round during the summer with a driver. #TeamTrackMan Playing golf as early as two-years-old, Justin learned all aspects of the game. I figured that out years ago based on hole distance and yardage to the flag after my tee shot. Someone will probably come in and explain what he should do to improve those numbers.. Callaway Paradyme Tensei 1K 70 Also, the dispersion for misses will be much wider for the AMA than the professional. Whatever helps you sleep at night my friend. But if you take the averages over a season you are going to get more than a good idea of how far the pros are hitting each club. Driver 6 Iron Brooks Koepka Related Posts Erik Van Rooyen Driver Numbers Sei Young Its important for me to have a 58 degree that works first and foremost in a bunker and then to chip with, because I use my 52 to chip with more often than not as I like to see the ball on the ground and rolling towards the hole so it has a chance of dropping in. Couldn't of said it any better myself. endobj Learn how your comment data is processed. [/color] I feel like a lot of AMs sacrifice strike for the extra 1-2 mph which ultimately leads to less distance. Exactly, I had the same perception in mind too. As you can see, 45% have a club speed between 91 and 100 mph., The AMA is far from efficient with his driver. =t 'BRvGGs.Du="dP0 J/% Np^=+,5I,F5HH#418y\PuQ5) x9.>5?2P5@B$bz.k^OY<>Vf.%,(H8,~f3YzWBpj|!8K^E`$D &XP9gBTl+= Tg{\(k@bW6o9e:&x$hx"o0@:+}UnMD($R*3|>M}18&oA>m Ed&Z):Y{J|'@*bT6|QNbge2RU'02_^^{ Shaft: Graphite Design Tour AD IZ 95 X Hybrid, Irons: Titleist T100 (3-9) On average pros drive the ball a total of 296.6 yards (yds) according to official PGA Shotlink data. I'm 6'3, in pretty good shape and played baseball my entire life. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. The AMA has an average club speed of 93.4 mph and an average total distance of 214 yards. This gap is the highest one Titleist advise in custom fitting, they like to see only 4 degrees between clubs which unfortunately means you are buying 3 wedges and paying an additional 169. Add That Little Extra Limited also participates in other affiliate programs with FlexOffers, CJ, Svorn and other sites and is compensated for referring traffic and business to these companies (again at no cost to you). Stay up to date and receive free notifications of new posts by email. Is a soft ball for club head speed of 90 MPH with the driver better than a hard ball? You cannot paste images directly. Shafts: Project X 125 6.5 (46), Project X 120 6.0 (52-60), Putter: Scotty Cameron 009 [/quote] It was not until I got together with almost every other golfer played and realized most like as in 90% were just like me which was a work in progress. This demonstrates that without changing technique and only changing strategy, the AMA can improve their performance. Instead, its mostly situational. 2 were over 320. Thanks to this impressive article, they will help more and more those who want to play golf. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364403614' post='6707409'] The main part of the fitting was when I moved onto the chipping green and started to hit bunker shots - these clubs just got better and better, theyre so secure in strike and very reliable. Very interesting but sort of depressing article. [/quote] Am I as good as tour pro? Either way I don't care. Thanks! it would be great to see this information on a broadcast on a couple of hole locations - combined with protracer. The plan is to include this type of information within TrackMan University in the future, but that is likely many months away at this point. X-Forged UT (#3- 21)- DG X700 Titleist 712 CB 4-9, MB PW KBS Tour (HS1X) You can post now and register later. DShawn Johnson [quote name='J.W.' Do you have Average Female Amature driver swing speed? Of course touring pros are way better than everyone at all facets of the gamethat's why they're out making millions while a bunch of us have idiotic debates over the Internet. I take most info in many sections of this board with a grain of salt. That tells Ball Speed- 176.38 average, 179.45 high What a great read with invaluable data and information. A good drive might only yield 250 and that isnt exciting. What was the actual value of swing speed group 105 mph+, since it shows 0%. My teachers are always trying to get me to change my swing to generate club head speed, but this consistently leaves me frustrated and physically sore. The consistency of impact through the sand was staggering, I seemed to take the exact same amount of sand and impact location every time. And for those golfers looking to make more substantial improvements to their game, the TrackMan Combine provides a roadmap for the improvement journey and accurate, immediate feedback at all checkpoints / stops along the way. I, and many amateur golfers I play with on a regular basis, have the ability to hit the ball a long way. Its a whole different story. Most of my longer clubs only just creep above the 200 yd mark. I agree with you 100%. Your email address will not be published. Dont think they ever release that stuff. The way forward has to be more tighter averages with the driver maximising my best yardage from the swing speed I have. It's good for some laughs. Vokey (TVD SM7 RAW 52 & SM6 RAW 58)- DG S400 And I suppose they hit it relatively far, but nearly the distances that the public thinks. My experience suggests that this is true. Desired launch angle, spin rates change based on driver speed. Shafts: Nippon N.S. In other words the distance from where they hit the ball to the point of impact on the ground. It makes the head look a little rounder, but Vokey has done a great job of disguising this weight distribution at address. I like to look at his averages on the tour seems to be more realistic data that is actually in play on tour. WebSee how The Honda Classic Justin Thomas Trackman numbers look https://blog.trackmangolf.com/justin-thomas-trackman-numbers/ No question - 100%. me too! 2023 Arnold Palmer Invitational - Discussion and Links to Photos, 2023 The Honda Classic - Discussion and Links to photos, 2023 Genesis Invitational - Discussion and Links to photos, 2023 Waste Management Phoenix Open - Discussion and Links to Photos, 2023 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am - Discussion and Links to all photos, 2023 HSBC Women's World Championship (Mar 02 - 05), Byron Morgan best for your balls DH89 & the elusive DBCM 8802, TWO PUTTERS - ONE POST. But if you can hit it 275 on your home muni track, that is at least 290 on a tour track with manicured fairways and perfect level tee boxes to hit from. Shafts: True Temper Project X PXi, Wedges: Cobra Trusty Rusty (50, 55), Tour Trusty (60) [quote name='markheardjr' timestamp='1364403013' post='6707345'] Dont be that person, as how your club interacts with the turf is more vital in wedges than with any other club. The AMA is capable of carrying the ball much further than his current total distance. Shaft:Fujikura Ventus TR Blue 7 X, Irons: TaylorMade P770 (4-5), TaylorMade P7MC (6-PW) Some of us didn't have the means or access to learn and play a lot of golf when we were Teeball aged. It is vital for them to know exactly how far they hit their wedges with a variety of different types of shots because feel is so important from those short distances, especially at the top level of the game, where a yard or two can make the difference between winning or losing a tournament. There he became one of the storied programs most decorated athletes being named Phil Mickelson Freshman of the Year, Jack Nicklaus Player of the Year, the Haskins Award Winner as the most outstanding player in collegiate and amateur golf, and capped his collegiate career by helping the Crimson Tide win their first National Championship in 2013. Thomas breakout season came in 2016-17 with five of his PGA TOUR wins, including the PGA Championship, 12 top 10 finishes and, ultimately, the FedEx Championship. yfvp ~ AnFVS0Y")Mb@3PNm[GVI=! Circa62, Tiger also ranks 125th on tour in total driving efficiency. You will probably pick up that I gravitate towards the technical aspects of most things I do. I blame it on TV coverage. I can hit the ball a long ways, that doesn't make me full of bs. [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Ratio - 1.48[/background][/size][/color] we never play for money. Despite the slight changes SM9 still looks very much like a Vokey should and thats what I like about these heads. Driver: Charles Kelley whats in the bag accurate as of the Pebble Beach Pro-Am. Please have a look at this video about Smash Factor. This is really intersting reading and I could not agree more with the finding your distance principal. Nothing feels better than a Vokey, theyre silky smooth and with the right setup just slide under the ball. He has an average attack angle of -1.6 degrees. Even when playing from the green tees at Torrey Pine South, the AMA is left with 165 yards for his approach shot. This analysis seems to be for elite athletes. For those of you interested in how these averages compare to individual pros we have listed in the table below the average stock carry yardages for a selection of the top pros when it comes to how far they hit their driver. [quote name='jeffrey08250' timestamp='1364416031' post='6708919'] [/quote] They hit 52 gap wedges a stock carry distance of between 126 and 135 yards and carry 56 sand wedges an average distance of 119 to 124 yards. Titleist 913D3 9.5* Diamana D+ 72s They hit 4-irons 208 yards and 5-irons 199 yards on average. Shaft: Aldila RIP Phenom, 3-wood: Titleist 906F4 (13.5 degrees) In 2018, Justin was just the 21st player to ever reach #1 in the Official World Golf Rankings following his WGC win in Memphis. My taylermade aero burner average distance is 330 yards on a good day 364 yards. I like to look at his averages on the tour seems to be more realistic data that is actually in play on tour. Master the Swing Plane and Handle Path for Increased Distance and Accuracy! WebIn 2018, Justin was just the 21st player to ever reach #1 in the Official World Golf Rankings following his WGC win in Memphis. any 7 iron data ? I think the difference is practice, practice and more practice. Trackman is pretty interesting, obviously path and angle of attack change depending on the shot your trying to shape. Justin came from 7 strokes back to start the final round at the 2022 PGA Championship which ties the largest final round comeback in PGA Championship history. I visited Hillside GC practice ground to have a full custom fitting session with the new SM9s. Although early days yet is there a general reason for the different results in club path. I know I hit the ball a long way though. Trackman is obviously simply a tool for fitting & in no way plays any part on your actual game. Milled grooves - SM9 sees Titleist use a new saw to cut their grooves, instead of stamping them onto the face. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364353617' post='6703853'] hard to say for sure who was at fault in the beginning i am 7 handicap play with a friend who is 26-28 i play blue he plays white even when an extra player joins me on the blue he still plays white. [quote name='GooseHook' timestamp='1364385234' post='6705065'] [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364353617' post='6703853'] Justin credits his success on the PGA TOUR to a childhood full of direction, support, and love. I've seen plenty of tour pros hit balls & played with many good golfers. Is it around 25-35% less than the AMA group? I played Monday and hit my 1st 3 drives over 300 and in the fairway. The SMs have been nurtured and feel just beautiful at impact, the GW is super consistent with full shots and the chip and run. My 8 iron 190yards 5iron 252 yards Pw is 150yrds And loft 56 at 120yrds Loft 110 yrds How do i control the power to less distance? You just have to be fit correctly and learn how to deliver the club better to the ball, and i shoot low 70s and i hit the ball 245 yards with ZERO roll in Thailand so it can be done. Including a personal best one under 35 for nine. First of all, I would always encourage any golfer to get custom fitted for Titleist Vokey wedges because the loft/bounce/grind chart can be very confusing. I bet a lot of my tee shots find the rough though. get up and down 3 out of the 5 times you miss the green makes all the difference. I have always wanted a push draw and now i can see the light in the tunnel. That's what I think. I also shot 86. But he picked up 25 yards for elevation, 25 for wind, and another 45 for extra roll. How Far Should You Hit a Driver? [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Launch Angle - 11*[/background][/size][/color] [quote name='GooseHook' timestamp='1364385234' post='6705065'] Jon has proven that he is able to compete at the While golf has given Justin a career he thoroughly enjoys, he knows the life lessons golf can provide. As he becomes more efficient, the AMA has shorter approach shots which lead to closer proximity to the hole. I guess if you don't play with guys that are good, it's understandable. How about heading out to Wedgefield in Georgetown, SC? Artisan MT Grind (58) DG S400 Not at all. Following 3 Trackman lessons and 4 Trackman practice sessions (and my own research) i have moved my swing path nearly 5 degree in to out. Length is nothing. http://web.tigerwoods.com/onTour/seasonStatistics. The average USGA handicap for male golfers has been between 14.0 and 15.0 since 2005. When it comes to his mid-irons he hits his 6-iron and 7-iron 195 and 180 yards. Their delivery will be erratic and Vokey is a bladed wedge which offers little help in the forgiveness department. [quote name='baseballfrk8998' timestamp='1364403832' post='6707431'] [/quote] On average PGA Tour pros hit a 3-wood a carry distance of 249 yards. You could hear the thump and it was relentless in its consistency. I like to look at his averages on the tour seems to be more realistic data that is actually in play on tour. By Tiger hits his 3-iron a carry distance of 240 yards on average while his 4-iron goes 225 yards and 5-iron 210 yards. If length was a determing factor for professional status then we'd have the Wedge players tour and not the Long Drivers tour. This promotes a lower ball flight and is seen by tour players as being a more accurate shot than having the ball float into the air. I wouldn't take a trackman stat to the bank. The respective games the AMA and professional golfers play today are two entirely separate entities and should be treated as such. [/quote] Obviously not. [/quote] I'll pass. Mr Vokey has listened and gone on to design a wedge with the feedback of those players in mind. [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Average Distance - 302 yards[/background][/size][/color] [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364353617' post='6703853'] While the length of the course is an important factor in scoring, more so is the challenging greens and required approach shots. I wouldn't take a trackman stat to the bank. Maybe for one swing he got there. Angle of attack, club speed, path, club face. The following chart shows average handicap versus average club speed. You can follow GolfWRX on Twitter @GolfWRX, Facebook and Instagram. [/quote] It's good for some laughs. PGA Tour players hit their driver a total of 296.6 yards on average with a carry distance of 284.3 yards according to official 2022 Shotlink data. I know a 47 year old who played d1 golf hits nothing but trap draws hits 8 irons 190. Distance is only a big deal to those who don't have it The average drive on tour last year was 289 yards. Finally, course strategy is an improvement that can be made without having to change anything relating to the swing, technique, or other physical items. Thomas breakout season came in 2016-17 with five of his PGA TOUR wins, including the PGA Championship, 12 top 10 finishes and, ultimately, the FedEx Championship. This instant gratification can be achieved through the 30-45 minute TrackMan Combine process! This put him near the bottom of the pack. APPLY NOW: Cleveland Frontline Elite Putters! I think some of you think too highly of yourselves & don't give tour players enough credit. Most of the guys I play/practice with are +2 to 5 handicaps. I think you wish you hit it further. WebSee how The Honda Classic Justin Thomas Trackman numbers look https://blog.trackmangolf.com/justin-thomas-trackman-numbers/ Yet I hit my driver 230 yards to what they say is average, 214. The "you have to be a tour player to hit a long way" mentality is comical to say the least. Its about 20% less when comparing PGA vs LPGA. A lot of guys come from athletic backgrounds too, and maybe took up the game at an older age. In my experiences wedges can be the least searched review on YouTube and some of the worst fitting processes. The following graph shows a plot of the AMAs shots from 160 yards. Check out the actual averages from the PGA Tour for the entire year: Now this is not to say that a tour player cant ramp it up another gear if they felt like showing off. Very unfortunately most of us are too busy with other things we need to do. You dont need to be depressed your swing speed is high enough to play very good golf. I'm not going to wear my body down trying to swing that club. [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Ball Speed - 185 mph[/background][/size][/color] If it's a longer hole, I'll play the driver. Spin Rate is on the high side, which also could indicate an off-center strike, and probably a negative attack angle both will shorten your distance. Theyre familiar and consistent, you wont see Bob Vokey ever designing a wedge with a high toe or full face of grooves. I would recommend that you go visit a TrackMan certified coach, he/she will be able to help you with your club speed. That's what I think. I know I'm not a short hitter & I know there's a ton of bs on this board. But then on the next hole when they come back down the hill with the wind behind them, they all go 340. [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Launch Angle - 11*[/background][/size][/color] Yes, the TrackMan Combine data is extremely valuable for identifying weaknesses that can be improved, but it is just as (arguably more) important for identify strengths that the golfer can play to without having to spend any additional time practicing. Absolutely awesome numbers though. [quote name='J.W.'

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